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Does abortion actually kill?
« Thread Started on Mar 22, 2005, 7:54pm »

This is not really a debate whether the idea is wrong or not. But last year while on the bus going towards home, I saw a sigh with big red letters: "ABORTION KILLS."

But Does it, really? As far as my knowledge goes, abortion is when they take or "kill" the embryo. To me, it is barely alive yet. to me, alive is when a baby can eat, think, sleep, etc.

So, when is a baby actually considered alive? Does Abortion ACTUALLY kill anything?

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Re: Does abortion actually kill?
« Reply #1 on Mar 23, 2005, 3:05pm »

Does it actually kill something?

Yes, it kills an embryo, but the big argument is that the embryo is not a human yet.

Well let me make 2 main points.

1. Its not a human yet, but so what? I mean we can't just go out and kill dolphin's so make someones like better. Its still killing something.

2. Its going to become a human, therefore I would consider it a human. You shouldn't be able to talk a life from a soon to be human.

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Re: Does abortion actually kill?
« Reply #2 on Mar 23, 2005, 8:36pm »

but it isnt exactly there yet, therefore that still gives the person a chance to end it. woyld you feel sad if you stepped and killed a jellyfish? Same thing, pretty much.

And dolphins are known to be pretty smart, who would want to kill them anyway? Plus they're cute

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Re: Does abortion actually kill?
« Reply #3 on Mar 23, 2005, 9:16pm »

Animals are not humans. I'm against abortion.

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Re: Does abortion actually kill?
« Reply #4 on Mar 24, 2005, 12:33am »

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1. Its not a human yet, but so what? I mean we can't just go out and kill dolphin's so make someones like better. Its still killing something.

Actually, Japanese fisherman kill dolphins because they are competition. So they do go out and kill dolphins to make their lives better.

I don't like to take stances when there is no fine line. Any opinion I have is usually a very weakly felt one. I don't have any leaning in this debate, this is one of the most balanced topics for me.

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Re: Does abortion actually kill?
« Reply #5 on Mar 24, 2005, 9:35pm »

So... I'm assuming that you really don't have a particular stance?

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Re: Does abortion actually kill?
« Reply #6 on Apr 6, 2005, 7:39pm »

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to me, alive is when a baby can eat, think, sleep, etc.

Just so you know, an embryo in its late stages DOES eat, think, and sleep. Everything is always alive in the body, or we just wouldn't work. Abortion is just preventing something from living in the outer world. But you could look at it in another way. Most abortions are done ine the early stages of a baby's development, when it cannot eat, sleep, or think. Therefore, its a matter of time and/or opinion

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Re: Does abortion actually kill?
« Reply #7 on Apr 7, 2005, 5:21pm »

Yes, but can it really think? I still dont consider it very alive yet o_O

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Re: Does abortion actually kill?
« Reply #8 on Apr 9, 2005, 11:43am »

Technically when a baby is born, all the thinking is done in the primative inner brain. That's why they're so simple as far as "I'm hungry. *cry*" or "I'm startled. *cry*" or "I want attention. *cry*"

At around 9 months, the inner brain forms connections with the outer brain, and this is where most learning begins. The baby starts learning to talk, walk, and live at around 9 months of age. That's when they become start thinking like a human. Before then they have the mental capacity of a Tamogatchi, and act just like one.

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